{"id":549,"date":"2007-07-29T22:11:41","date_gmt":"2007-07-30T02:11:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/bugfox.net\/fun\/2007\/07\/29\/shakugan-no-shana-fuuzetsu-and-the-refrigerator-test\/"},"modified":"2008-06-15T21:51:06","modified_gmt":"2008-06-16T02:51:06","slug":"shakugan-no-shana-fuuzetsu-and-the-refrigerator-test","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bugfox.net\/fun\/2007\/07\/29\/shakugan-no-shana-fuuzetsu-and-the-refrigerator-test\/","title":{"rendered":"Shakugan no Shana, Fuuzetsu and the Refrigerator Test"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Steven Den Beste <a href=\"http:\/\/chizumatic.mee.nu\/shakugan_no_shana_2_fuzetsu\">comments <\/a> on the logical problems raised by the <em>fuuzetsu<\/em> (&#8220;time-stop seals&#8221;) in <a href=\"\/fun\/2006\/09\/02\/shakugan-no-shana-review\/\">Shakugan no Shana<\/a>. When time stops inside the seal, does it also stop outside? Either way seems to create impossible paradoxes. Either way no one should be able to enter or leave the sealed area.<\/p>\n<p>Of course these problems also occur with any of the other <a href=\"\/fun\/terms-used-in-anime-reviews#anime\">anime<\/a> and <a href=\"\/fun\/terms-used-in-anime-reviews#manga\">manga<\/a> series that use a variation of this concept. It&#8217;s a convenient notion. Seal off an area where the good guys and bad guys can fight it out, then clean up the mess before anyone notices. The idea dates back at least to <a href=\"\/fun\/2007\/01\/26\/x-tv-anime-review\/\">X<\/a>,  and also appears in <em>The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya<\/em>, <em>Pretear<\/em>, <em>Kyoshiro to Towa no Sora<\/em>, and who knows how many others. They all are subject to similar critiques.<\/p>\n<p>However I think that in the case of <em>Shakugan no Shana<\/em> all of the paradoxes can be resolved rather simply by applying the rules of that fantasy universe. Entering full-geek mode, I will attempt to do so. NOTE: This is going to require some spoilers, so those who haven&#8217;t seen the series should read no further.<br \/>\n<!--more--><br \/>\nLets review the assumptions of the series: Certain people, called &#8220;unrestricted masters&#8221; (<em>jizai shi<\/em>) can use &#8220;power of existence&#8221; (<em>sonzai no chikara<\/em>) to perform &#8220;unrestricted methods&#8221; (<em>jizai hou<\/em>). Unrestricted methods are &#8220;unrestricted&#8221; in the sense that they can violate any of the normal laws of nature, yet they operate in a way that keeps most people unaware of their existence.<\/p>\n<p>For example, suppose that I were to use an unrestricted method to transform the Empire State Building into a giant carrot. Most people would not notice that anything unusual had happened. They would remember that there had always been a giant carrot there, and they would be able to point to history books and old photographs to prove it. Scientific journals would have old articles explaining how it was possible for a giant carrot to grow there.<\/p>\n<p>Things would be different for my fellow unrestricted masters. They would remember that there used to be a building there and that they had seen me change it into a carrot. However they would not be able to produce any physical evidence such as photographs to prove it.<\/p>\n<p>The effect of an unrestricted method is to alter reality to make the change seem a natural part of the universe. (The downside is that if too great a change is required, reality will not be able to adjust and the universe will be destroyed.)<\/p>\n<p>Only the minds of those who know &#8220;the truth about the world&#8221; will be unaffected. These are people who through training, a magic spell or possession of a magical item are aware of the effects of <em>sonzai no chikara<\/em> and have some degree of control over it.<\/p>\n<p>So how does a <em>fuuzetsu<\/em> work? For ordinary people trapped inside it time appears to stop (hence the name &#8220;time-stop seal&#8221;). For people outside of it time does <strong>not<\/strong> stop. Consider: while Margery battles Friagne inside a <em>fuuzetsu<\/em>, Kazumi visits a museum with Yuuji and watches as he talks with Lamies. Yuuji senses the creation of a <em>fuuzetsu<\/em>, has lunch with his mother, then walks to the <em>fuuzetsu<\/em> to see the end of the battle.<\/p>\n<p>Ordinary people go about their business unaware of the <em>fuuzetsu<\/em>. For reasons that make perfect sense to them at the time they never cross into the area that it covers. If they happen to leave a companion trapped inside the <em>fuuzetsu<\/em> they will not notice this, but will manage to be back at the right location to meet them when the <em>fuuzetsu<\/em> is dissolved. People inside and outside the <em>fuuzetsu<\/em> should be able to compare notes and discover a gap in their memories, but they never do because their memories are adjusted to cover up any discrepancies.<\/p>\n<p>For those who know &#8220;the truth about the world&#8221; things appear very different. They can see the <em>fuuzetsu<\/em> as a domed area lit inside with reddish light. They can walk up to it and walk into it. The ordinary people inside will be frozen like statues, but they will be able to move around in it and (if they have sufficient power) perform magic. For them time never stops, either inside or outside.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Steven Den Beste comments on the logical problems raised by the fuuzetsu (&#8220;time-stop seals&#8221;) in Shakugan no Shana. When time stops inside the seal, does it also stop outside? Either&#8230; <a href=\"https:\/\/bugfox.net\/fun\/2007\/07\/29\/shakugan-no-shana-fuuzetsu-and-the-refrigerator-test\/\">Read more &raquo;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_exactmetrics_skip_tracking":false,"_exactmetrics_sitenote_active":false,"_exactmetrics_sitenote_note":"","_exactmetrics_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[56],"class_list":["post-549","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-anime","tag-shakugan-no-shana"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/bugfox.net\/fun\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/549","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/bugfox.net\/fun\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/bugfox.net\/fun\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bugfox.net\/fun\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bugfox.net\/fun\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=549"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/bugfox.net\/fun\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/549\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/bugfox.net\/fun\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=549"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bugfox.net\/fun\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=549"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bugfox.net\/fun\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=549"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}